Is this the thing where people act like their little suburb in ~Oklahoma (population, 10k) is “the real world” but a major city like NYC (population, 8 million) is some sort of fake world?
No this is me living in one of the most populated cities within the most populated state of the US. I just don’t lock myself into only interacting with people from one political party. Even within deeply blue cities there are Trump supporters everywhere. Most of you just can’t spot them if your lives depended on it because they have spent their entire lives pretending to be one of you.
I mean, there are reasons why right wing people don’t admit it. “I don’t think women should vote” isn’t going to make a lot of friends with women, for example. I don’t “lock myself” into avoiding Republicans, but their beliefs are often reprehensible so we don’t get along.
But also I live in NYC and I’m sure there are trump supporters, but most people recognize him as a scumbag and threat.
I can absolutely promise you without a shadow of a doubt in my entire body that you interact with conservatives/republicans/right leaning people every single day and you have no clue at all. Sure the ones with the red hats and missing teeth are the easiest ones to spot, but they are in more places than the average left leaning person even suspects.
I worked for a VERY left/liberal major college in California. The head of my department was one of these “hidden” conservatives. She played the part of a left wing Democrat manager incredibly well. Had the trans stickers on her laptop and all that jazz. I didn’t even know that she didn’t agree with any of the schools political nonsense until I ran into her at a gun range all decked out in 2A shit lol. Turns out she just leans into that “character” since it’s what works to get ahead in that place. And she was absolutely right.
I know a gay couple that are pretty right leaning, but they learned a long time ago that their own people don’t accept different opinions so they just play pretend whenever they go out into the LGBT spaces and they are their normal Republican selves at home or with their right leaning buddies.
Some people that have opinions that go against the mainstream can chameleon better than most people realize. It doesn’t work so well the other way around. I tried taking one of my very left leaning friends to a heavily conservative skewed event and they stuck out like a sore thumb the entire time even though they attempted to dress up and act the way they thought right leaning people would. People called them out in it a few times and made fun of them lightly, but they didn’t really care.
I’m not even conservative and I learned to shut up and play pretend for the short time I went to college because questioning the professor or showing you don’t go a long with the narrative is a great way to get targeted by the teachers and other students.
For the record very few people on the right actually believe women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Most of them say it as a joke because they know how much it rubs certain people the wrong way. It’s kinda like the guys that complain (jokingly) to their wives that they need to get back in the kitchen and make them a sandwich. Yeah some of them actually mean it and fuck those people, but the grand majority do not view women that way at all.
I know a gay couple that are pretty right leaning, but they learned a long time ago that their own people don’t accept different opinions so they just play pretend whenever they go out into the LGBT spaces and they are their normal Republican selves at home or with their right leaning buddies.
It is extremely misleading to characterize this as “different opinions”. The republican party is extremely hostile to queer people. We’re not talking about like “i like pop-punk and you like 90s-r&b”.
Also if people really are lying about their beliefs so hard, that’s fucked up. Most of us learn that lying is bad in early childhood.
I’m not even conservative and I learned to shut up and play pretend for the short time I went to college because questioning the professor or showing you don’t go a long with the narrative is a great way to get targeted by the teachers and other students.
I feel like there’s a lot of detail missing here. Yeah, if you were saying like “I just don’t think gay stuff is natural” other people might have said mean things to you, but that would’ve been because you had a shitty opinion. Most right wing views are absolute dog shit, so it’s not surprising people would target them. You wouldn’t be persecuted for “going against the narrative”, you’d be derided for having bad ideas.
For the record very few people on the right actually believe women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Most of them say it as a joke because they know how much it rubs certain people the wrong way. It’s kinda like the guys that complain (jokingly) to their wives that they need to get back in the kitchen and make them a sandwich. Yeah some of them actually mean it and fuck those people, but the grand majority do not view women that way at all.
“I was just joking” is a common top-of-the-funnel for horrors. Explain why it’s funny to make jokes like “women belong in the kitchen” or “well we all know black people are [negative stereotype of your choice]”.
I’ve had several women tell me about how they’d have a date or two with a guy who’d said he was “liberal” or “moderate”, but it quickly became apparent he had horrible views about the world.
To your larger point, there may be people who pretend to be left-wing but secretly hold shitty beliefs, but those people are bad people.
And it sounds like you just want to feel persecuted by people for “going against the narrative” and don’t want to accept that right wing beliefs are, i repeat, dog shit, and make for a worse world.
Eh. I don’t think everyone but me is an NPC. That requires a level of narcissism I just don’t possess.
I do think most people lock into “their side” and then they vehemently defend it without much individual thought.
I do think both “sides” are full of weak willed people who fold and just fall into party lines to support everything they are “supposed to” regardless if they actually feel differently about it.
Is this the thing where people act like their little suburb in ~Oklahoma (population, 10k) is “the real world” but a major city like NYC (population, 8 million) is some sort of fake world?
No this is me living in one of the most populated cities within the most populated state of the US. I just don’t lock myself into only interacting with people from one political party. Even within deeply blue cities there are Trump supporters everywhere. Most of you just can’t spot them if your lives depended on it because they have spent their entire lives pretending to be one of you.
I mean, there are reasons why right wing people don’t admit it. “I don’t think women should vote” isn’t going to make a lot of friends with women, for example. I don’t “lock myself” into avoiding Republicans, but their beliefs are often reprehensible so we don’t get along.
But also I live in NYC and I’m sure there are trump supporters, but most people recognize him as a scumbag and threat.
I can absolutely promise you without a shadow of a doubt in my entire body that you interact with conservatives/republicans/right leaning people every single day and you have no clue at all. Sure the ones with the red hats and missing teeth are the easiest ones to spot, but they are in more places than the average left leaning person even suspects.
I worked for a VERY left/liberal major college in California. The head of my department was one of these “hidden” conservatives. She played the part of a left wing Democrat manager incredibly well. Had the trans stickers on her laptop and all that jazz. I didn’t even know that she didn’t agree with any of the schools political nonsense until I ran into her at a gun range all decked out in 2A shit lol. Turns out she just leans into that “character” since it’s what works to get ahead in that place. And she was absolutely right.
I know a gay couple that are pretty right leaning, but they learned a long time ago that their own people don’t accept different opinions so they just play pretend whenever they go out into the LGBT spaces and they are their normal Republican selves at home or with their right leaning buddies.
Some people that have opinions that go against the mainstream can chameleon better than most people realize. It doesn’t work so well the other way around. I tried taking one of my very left leaning friends to a heavily conservative skewed event and they stuck out like a sore thumb the entire time even though they attempted to dress up and act the way they thought right leaning people would. People called them out in it a few times and made fun of them lightly, but they didn’t really care.
I’m not even conservative and I learned to shut up and play pretend for the short time I went to college because questioning the professor or showing you don’t go a long with the narrative is a great way to get targeted by the teachers and other students.
For the record very few people on the right actually believe women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Most of them say it as a joke because they know how much it rubs certain people the wrong way. It’s kinda like the guys that complain (jokingly) to their wives that they need to get back in the kitchen and make them a sandwich. Yeah some of them actually mean it and fuck those people, but the grand majority do not view women that way at all.
It is extremely misleading to characterize this as “different opinions”. The republican party is extremely hostile to queer people. We’re not talking about like “i like pop-punk and you like 90s-r&b”.
Also if people really are lying about their beliefs so hard, that’s fucked up. Most of us learn that lying is bad in early childhood.
I feel like there’s a lot of detail missing here. Yeah, if you were saying like “I just don’t think gay stuff is natural” other people might have said mean things to you, but that would’ve been because you had a shitty opinion. Most right wing views are absolute dog shit, so it’s not surprising people would target them. You wouldn’t be persecuted for “going against the narrative”, you’d be derided for having bad ideas.
“I was just joking” is a common top-of-the-funnel for horrors. Explain why it’s funny to make jokes like “women belong in the kitchen” or “well we all know black people are [negative stereotype of your choice]”.
I’ve had several women tell me about how they’d have a date or two with a guy who’d said he was “liberal” or “moderate”, but it quickly became apparent he had horrible views about the world.
To your larger point, there may be people who pretend to be left-wing but secretly hold shitty beliefs, but those people are bad people.
And it sounds like you just want to feel persecuted by people for “going against the narrative” and don’t want to accept that right wing beliefs are, i repeat, dog shit, and make for a worse world.
You have very strong “everyone but me is an NPC” vibes.
Eh. I don’t think everyone but me is an NPC. That requires a level of narcissism I just don’t possess.
I do think most people lock into “their side” and then they vehemently defend it without much individual thought.
I do think both “sides” are full of weak willed people who fold and just fall into party lines to support everything they are “supposed to” regardless if they actually feel differently about it.
You nailed it, so of course you’re getting downvoted lol