Man, I’m not here saying “If you don’t support The People’s Party you are One Of Them”. I’m not trying to say that everyone who doesn’t support Fully Automated Gay Luxury Space Communism is a Reactionary Dog, or that there are no moderate positions which are valid. I’m criticizing the self-professed centrists and moderates who argue that ‘both sides’ are guilty in the war and for that reason, we shouldn’t be involved. You can say they’re dumb, and you might be right, but they exist in non-negligible numbers.
Bipartisan is working with both sides, I think you mean partisan, taking a side. Confused me for a moment.
More people should get used to the idea that being “partisan”, taking a side, is not in itself a horrible thing.
Not to compare all current political situations, but to just demonstrate a conflict with “sides”: Side A is a baby. They want to eat their lollipop. Side B is an escaped criminal who wants to drown the baby in acid. I will be partisan and say that I sincerely hope for all people to firmly take Side A, and offer not even half an allowance to Side B.
America has won some of these culture wars before, in positive ways; if you’ll remember what sort of things we supported/fought against about a hundred years ago.
Im gonna copy and modify a little of a comment i already made to answer yah m8:
The thing is that taking a centrist POV doesnt really looks to find a middle point between one extreme and the other, it looks to find a naunced take on it or the one thats colser to the truth, and offc the more naunced take would be no war (in the case of this meme but in the baby case it would be no killing baby), but in this meme its kinda perversed into partisian thinking like the US culture war bs does, that if you not agree with every single thing my side says then you are a tankie, and i dont whana be a tankie, they are not based, but while i agree mostly with what your side says, somethimes they can say or do some things that i dont like and i whant to be able to disagree with them.
Now i dont really have any good example for the war situation since Russia is clearly the bad guy in that one and the one thats comiting more war crimes if trying to colonise another country isnt enough of a war crime, the only thing i could think of is the videos of russian soldiers being killed by drones where in the comments are full of assholes rallying and yelling horrible things about the dead russian guy, and praiseing its dead. I mean, i like to watch fucked up videos like most people but like… rallying like that is just straight up wrong, the poor guy was probably some russian kid that got forcibly drafted into the army because he was caught smoking weed or something, it reminds me a lot of the 1984 book where they had like a “Hate hour” or something like that where they put a mob in front of a giant telescreen and put images of a enemy of the government (dont remember his name but he was pretty much Throtchsky) and rallied people against it and started shouting like an angry mob and as soon as it stoped everyone stoped.
And an example with the baby part, i might be stretching things to far, but being so young it really shouldnt be eating candy all day and i think it should be fed less candy and more healty food. Again im really steetching this but im trying to present an example about it.
Man, I’m not here saying “If you don’t support The People’s Party you are One Of Them”. I’m not trying to say that everyone who doesn’t support Fully Automated Gay Luxury Space Communism is a Reactionary Dog, or that there are no moderate positions which are valid. I’m criticizing the self-professed centrists and moderates who argue that ‘both sides’ are guilty in the war and for that reason, we shouldn’t be involved. You can say they’re dumb, and you might be right, but they exist in non-negligible numbers.
Bipartisan is working with both sides, I think you mean partisan, taking a side. Confused me for a moment.
Oh… ok true on the partisan stuff… im gonna change that.
And im glad to hear that your take is more nuanced than what i though before.
But the meme itself still gives me those partisian american culture war bs vibes that i described before, so thats why i got the wrong idea.
I give you the status of based while the metodology of the meme is not based unfurtunatelly.
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More people should get used to the idea that being “partisan”, taking a side, is not in itself a horrible thing.
Not to compare all current political situations, but to just demonstrate a conflict with “sides”: Side A is a baby. They want to eat their lollipop. Side B is an escaped criminal who wants to drown the baby in acid. I will be partisan and say that I sincerely hope for all people to firmly take Side A, and offer not even half an allowance to Side B.
America has won some of these culture wars before, in positive ways; if you’ll remember what sort of things we supported/fought against about a hundred years ago.
Im gonna copy and modify a little of a comment i already made to answer yah m8:
The thing is that taking a centrist POV doesnt really looks to find a middle point between one extreme and the other, it looks to find a naunced take on it or the one thats colser to the truth, and offc the more naunced take would be no war (in the case of this meme but in the baby case it would be no killing baby), but in this meme its kinda perversed into partisian thinking like the US culture war bs does, that if you not agree with every single thing my side says then you are a tankie, and i dont whana be a tankie, they are not based, but while i agree mostly with what your side says, somethimes they can say or do some things that i dont like and i whant to be able to disagree with them.
Now i dont really have any good example for the war situation since Russia is clearly the bad guy in that one and the one thats comiting more war crimes if trying to colonise another country isnt enough of a war crime, the only thing i could think of is the videos of russian soldiers being killed by drones where in the comments are full of assholes rallying and yelling horrible things about the dead russian guy, and praiseing its dead. I mean, i like to watch fucked up videos like most people but like… rallying like that is just straight up wrong, the poor guy was probably some russian kid that got forcibly drafted into the army because he was caught smoking weed or something, it reminds me a lot of the 1984 book where they had like a “Hate hour” or something like that where they put a mob in front of a giant telescreen and put images of a enemy of the government (dont remember his name but he was pretty much Throtchsky) and rallied people against it and started shouting like an angry mob and as soon as it stoped everyone stoped.
And an example with the baby part, i might be stretching things to far, but being so young it really shouldnt be eating candy all day and i think it should be fed less candy and more healty food. Again im really steetching this but im trying to present an example about it.