So AT, but not necessarily to Bluesky itself per se (or rather, not “just” to it), as opposed to ActivityPub?
I think if people writing open source software e.g. underpinning Mastodon would simply listen to potential users, then people would actually join it. Nobody likes to be ignored - e.g. celebrities who know that there are no guarantees that someone else won’t simply steal their name and impersonate them, which imho is a valid concern that they have. And ofc the onboarding experience leaves much to be desired, especially for people who haven’t created an account yet and just want to see an example of what it might look like if they did (which Bluesky does an EXCELLENT 👌 job at that!).
Here on Lemmy, that would mean defederating from troll instances like Hexbear - at least for the instances promoted to the “normie” crowd - and reducing the overall heavy tones of authoritian control. e.g. we have a modlog but no modmail, and the modlogs used to say more but now simply say “mod”, which let’s be honest, makes us Reddit 2.0, just now with slightly less spez, yet you know all those users banned from Reddit bc they were so toxic that even Reddit couldn’t handle them? Yeah, they came HERE - join us why don’t you?
Obviously you can/must spend tens of hours of your life blocking all of this if you don’t want it… oh and also a large portion of the software does not work, e.g. deleted posts don’t say “deleted post” so much as “internal server error, check back later”. (or instead of any of that, they could simply remain on Reddit? hence they do just that)
So AT, but not necessarily to Bluesky itself per se (or rather, not “just” to it), as opposed to ActivityPub?
Yeah, there are apps launching that filter BS for images (Instagram) or videos (TikTok) but they are quick and easy to deploy - BS could build those filters in itself.
The killer services will be standalone ones running on the AT Protocol. They’ll get a tonne of buzz and will see similar numbers of users switching to them from the Big Web but, without safeguards, they will be indistinguishable from the older Big Web services and have the potential to enshittify.
I think if people writing open source software e.g. underpinning Mastodon would simply listen to potential users, then people would actually join it.
The problem is, BS has millions of VC capital (including from blockchain bros) and, at some point, they’ll want paying. If the Fediverse had a fraction of that a lot of wrinkles would be ironed out.
Perhaps dansup’s successful Kickstarter and the rocketing success of his Pixelfed show we can push projects on to bigger things. However, we’ll always lag behind.
It would help Loops even more if the code was released:-). Although the code is released for PieFed, Lemmy, and Mbin, and that only helps so much there. As you say, it’s hard to compete against millions of dollars worth of investment. And the vast majority of users seem to care only about the usability of the tool, not purist reasons that it uses Arch btw, aka that it’s open source.
So AT, but not necessarily to Bluesky itself per se (or rather, not “just” to it), as opposed to ActivityPub?
I think if people writing open source software e.g. underpinning Mastodon would simply listen to potential users, then people would actually join it. Nobody likes to be ignored - e.g. celebrities who know that there are no guarantees that someone else won’t simply steal their name and impersonate them, which imho is a valid concern that they have. And ofc the onboarding experience leaves much to be desired, especially for people who haven’t created an account yet and just want to see an example of what it might look like if they did (which Bluesky does an EXCELLENT 👌 job at that!).
Here on Lemmy, that would mean defederating from troll instances like Hexbear - at least for the instances promoted to the “normie” crowd - and reducing the overall heavy tones of authoritian control. e.g. we have a modlog but no modmail, and the modlogs used to say more but now simply say “mod”, which let’s be honest, makes us Reddit 2.0, just now with slightly less spez, yet you know all those users banned from Reddit bc they were so toxic that even Reddit couldn’t handle them? Yeah, they came HERE - join us why don’t you?
Obviously you can/must spend tens of hours of your life blocking all of this if you don’t want it… oh and also a large portion of the software does not work, e.g. deleted posts don’t say “deleted post” so much as “internal server error, check back later”. (or instead of any of that, they could simply remain on Reddit? hence they do just that)
Yeah, there are apps launching that filter BS for images (Instagram) or videos (TikTok) but they are quick and easy to deploy - BS could build those filters in itself.
The killer services will be standalone ones running on the AT Protocol. They’ll get a tonne of buzz and will see similar numbers of users switching to them from the Big Web but, without safeguards, they will be indistinguishable from the older Big Web services and have the potential to enshittify.
The problem is, BS has millions of VC capital (including from blockchain bros) and, at some point, they’ll want paying. If the Fediverse had a fraction of that a lot of wrinkles would be ironed out.
Perhaps dansup’s successful Kickstarter and the rocketing success of his Pixelfed show we can push projects on to bigger things. However, we’ll always lag behind.
It would help Loops even more if the code was released:-). Although the code is released for PieFed, Lemmy, and Mbin, and that only helps so much there. As you say, it’s hard to compete against millions of dollars worth of investment. And the vast majority of users seem to care only about the usability of the tool, not purist reasons that it uses Arch btw, aka that it’s open source.