Yeah okay so they’re literally just talking about using ChatGPT answers in the training set. Everyone does this, it’s completely fair game. Hell, the R1 Qwen that everyone is using now to run ‘R1’ on their own device is Qwen distilled with R1.
Exactly and it’s just stunning hypocrisy on the part of OpenAI who have been sucking up all data with complete disregard for ownership. Also agree that copyright wouldn’t even be necessary in a socialist society, while it only ends up being abused under capitalism.
I would argue that a new socialist country should retain copyright, but drastically shorten its duration (back to the original 7 years or less). The reason being that copyright is the mechanism that protects the copyleft. Without copyright, the GPL would no longer be enforceable. I’m no fan of copyright and would love to see it eventually abolished, but it has its uses today.
Yeah the real problem with this is that ChatGPT is going to give a lot of garbage answers when it comes to political questions, and if DeepSeek takes in too much of that, it will also start spitting out very bad takes. It’s like copying off of your classmate in a test in school, but that classmate is only known for getting good grades in some classes but not so good grades in others. You need to be careful to only copy on the subjects you know they’re actually competent at.
Yeah okay so they’re literally just talking about using ChatGPT answers in the training set. Everyone does this, it’s completely fair game. Hell, the R1 Qwen that everyone is using now to run ‘R1’ on their own device is Qwen distilled with R1.
(Not that I believe in copyright to begin with).
Exactly and it’s just stunning hypocrisy on the part of OpenAI who have been sucking up all data with complete disregard for ownership. Also agree that copyright wouldn’t even be necessary in a socialist society, while it only ends up being abused under capitalism.
I would argue that a new socialist country should retain copyright, but drastically shorten its duration (back to the original 7 years or less). The reason being that copyright is the mechanism that protects the copyleft. Without copyright, the GPL would no longer be enforceable. I’m no fan of copyright and would love to see it eventually abolished, but it has its uses today.
Yeah, capitalist relations need to be abolished first.
Yeah the real problem with this is that ChatGPT is going to give a lot of garbage answers when it comes to political questions, and if DeepSeek takes in too much of that, it will also start spitting out very bad takes. It’s like copying off of your classmate in a test in school, but that classmate is only known for getting good grades in some classes but not so good grades in others. You need to be careful to only copy on the subjects you know they’re actually competent at.