Introducing Proton CAPTCHA | Proton
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We developed our own CAPTCHA service to ensure it is secure, respects privacy, and optimized to be usable by everyone. Find out how it works.

At Proton, we’re always working on new and innovative ways to protect the privacy and data of the Proton community.

Yeah, I guess that’s nice. I do like Proton.

I’d love for Proton to focus on completing some current services and make them actually usable though.

  • beta_tester@lemmy.mlEnglish
    37·
    1 year ago

    Proton is becoming better every day. Oftentimes it’s easier to push new services than to polish old ones. And they explained a lot of times that there are different teams working on different products.

    But some basic things were promised many years ago and they did not yet deliver yet which is sad

  • Lung@lemmy.worldEnglish
    224·
    1 year ago

    Feels like releasing a new (privacy oriented) horse drawn buggy design just as automobiles are taking off

    Captcha has already been extremely questionable for years, as there are open source tools to break em, and AIs emerging that can describe what’s in images

    Take as a case study RuneScape building custom captcha games during login to try and dissuade bots. It didn’t work, the bots easily adapted to the new games

    Google’s reCaptcha no longer recommends any user interaction at all. The new methodology is using AI to wholistically examine user behavior/identity with as much data as possible

    Basically, I think Proton wasted their time, and captchas are a dumb system. They added computational challenges, but they start easy and are pitched when image fails. So I’m not so convinced that they will work better than cloudflare

    • DavidGarcia@feddit.nlEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      even if you’re right, obsolete technologies usually hang around for way longer than they should. so this could still be useful in some capacity for the next 20 years, even if it is annoying and easily defeatable. kind of like putting a really shitty lock on something. It won’t stop anyone determined, but it will stop 99% of people from opening it.

      • Lung@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        Problem is that this only matters for botters, and those are the guys who showed up with the bolt cutters

    • evanuggetpi@lemmy.nzEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      You are absolutely correct. CAPTCHAs are dead. Look at Cloudflare’s Managed Challenge (turnstile) for the type of system that replaces CAPTCHAs. What a waste of time and resources, Proton.

  • Grangle1@lemm.eeEnglish
    13·
    1 year ago

    Wireguard on Linux for Proton VPN and a Bridge for Calendar (or adding Calendar to the current Bridge) would be great for making current services better.

    • Z4rK@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      I would like searchable email content on mobile, calendar bridge, and a Drive that could actually sync my files between all my devices instead of just individually backup up each device to the cloud? The implementation of Drive is so strange to me I can hardly fathom the idea behind it. I must have used every other cloud drive under the sun over the years. No one has worked like Proton. Instead they have worked like expected.

    • beta_tester@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I use wireguard with proton on gnome and on kde. You have to use configuration files but if you read into it it’s easy and works flawlessly.

      Btw, that’s the only method there is if you want to open ports with protonvpn

  • Xy_Lemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    This is awesome stuff. I like the direction Proton is taking of slowly adding services. I hope they get to build a web browser sooner. Hopefully not based on Chromium but Firefox (Gecko).