As a moderator of a Lemmy instance, you currently have two options to take: pushing users first to your local content or content from all instances you federate with. These options come with the costs seen in the picture. The moderator of another instance has the same choice. However, in this scenario, they will both always switch to promoting the local-feed. I don’t want to say its wrong - it’s just the most sensible way to act on Lemmy currently. However, if everybody does it, it is bad for the overall discussion quality of the Threadiverse.

Its a classical prisoner’s dilemma from game theory, which sometimes happen in society, for example with supply shortage during lockdowns. A way to solve it is by making action B more positive and option A more negative. This would lead to more moderators choosing Action B over A.

Mastodon solved this with an Explore-Feed, which consolidates the Local- and All-Feed. I think this could also be a solution for Lemmy. It would result in less engagement decrease AND an overall positive effect on discussion quality.

Additionally, a general acknowledgement that instance protectionism is a problem and should be avoided could help to make A more negative. In other words: increasing the pressure by the community. This would put a negative social effect on option A. So: start talking about it with your moderators.

Do you think these two measure would do (additionally to more powerful moderation tools, which would only enable a working explore-feed in the first place)? Is this a problem on other services on the Fediverse too (at least Mastodon seems to have handled it quite well)?

    • harmonea@kbin.social
      17·
      1 year ago

      I almost never used all on reddit.

      On the fediverse, I use it every day. There isn’t enough content in my subscribed feed, so I check the “good stuff” first and then pop over to see what’s interesting elsewhere.

    • noride@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      I kinda disagree, /r/all was amazing way back before they started fuckin with it. That was the best way to discover new communities once upon a time.

      But I do admit the firehouse approach isn’t for those looking for a refreshing glass of water.

    • Unaware7013@kbin.social
      81·
      1 year ago

      Using m/all is how i find a lot of the content I like. There’s a lot of magazine blocking to get rid of the trash I don’t want, and that allows me to get a moderately different feed than my main subscription page.

      • machinin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Interesting, I agree with OP in that I never cared for browsing Reddit’s All, except for rare occasions. But your post made me think about the possibility of setting up multiple subscription lists:

        1. Subscribed
        2. All with some blocks
        3. All
    • edric@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      It’s partly FOMO. The feeling that even with extensive subscriptions, there might be interesting content that the user would miss because they aren’t subscribed. That and some users just want to discover new stuff that they might not otherwise know they were interested in just because they never had the chance to see it.

      • Bebo@sffa.communityEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        That makes sense. For me, I am very sure about what topics/communities I am interested in; other things I am not interested in checking out. My subscribed field takes up the time I allocate to lemmy anyway.

    • Spzi@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      I’ll never really understand why people want anything but a subscribed feed.

      You got lots of answers in favor of All, so here’s my contribution for Local: It makes sense for themed instances. Examples:

      The Local feeds of these instances basically act as a merged view of all their individual communities. Which is a frequently requested feature in another context.

      Personally, I almost exclusively use Subscribed (since I’m also not interested in themed instances), but there are reasons for All and Local.