I think the problem with btrfs is that it entered the spotlight way to early. With Wayland there was time to work on a lot of the kinks before everyone started seriously switching.

On btrfs a bunch of people switched blindly and then lost data. This caused many to have a bad impression of btrfs. These days it is significantly better but because there was so much fear there is less attention paid to it and it is less widely used.

  • Aganim@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    2 months ago

    Maybe you shouldn’t take your experience from 5 years ago and apply now. Wayland is solid and so is Btrfs.

    My 2 year old AMD-based laptop begs to differ. X11 is rock-solid, whereas Wayland locks up completely on a regular basis, without producing any useful logging. Every so often I try it to see if things have gotten better, but until today unfortunately not. Personally I prefer X11, I need to perform work on my Linux machine, not spend time debugging a faulty compositor, protocol or wherever the problem lies.

    • loutr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      Wayland itself can’t crash, it’s just a set of protocol specs. The implementation you’re using (gnome/KDE/wlroots…) does. Obviously this doesn’t solve your problem as an end-user, just saying that this particular issue isn’t to blame on Wayland in itself.

      • Aganim@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Fine, in that case both Gnome and KDE handle the Wayland protocol in a crappy manner on my hardware. As the end-user I don’t care: I have no issues with KDE and Gnome on X11, when using the Wayland protocol they are unstable. For my use-case X11 is the better choice , as using the Wayland protocol comes with issues and does not provide any benefits over X11.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
        22·
        2 months ago

        This feels more like long time Linux guy digging in there heals because they like the old days

    • lastweakness@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 months ago

      This sounds like a driver issue or something if all desktops are breaking for you. Have you tried reporting it anywhere?

      • Aganim@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        The problem is, I wouldn’t know what to report and where. I’ve never been able to find any relevant logging, neither in /var/log nor in journalctl. I doubt opening an issue with ‘desktop locks up randomly when using Wayland’ is really useful without any logging. And where would I do that? At the Wayland bug tracker? Gnome or KDE? Kernel, as it indeed might be a driver issue? And there is of course the time component: I use my laptop for work, so I simply cannnot spend hours on debugging this. That’s time I don’t have, I’m afraid.