• QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyzM
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    Well, you have to explore other languages. As Linus Torvalds once famously said:

    There aren’t enough swear-words in the English language, so now I’ll have to call you perkeleen vittupää just to express my disgust and frustration with this crap.

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    Btw seems like we need to start nationalizing shit. Can’t have billionaires vetoing military decisions.

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      You could even say it’s an infringement on democracy, since Elon isn’t an elected leader.

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    Me too. Just for a few minutes.

    I’m very close talker.

    It’s time to nationalize Starlink & SpaceX.

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            Well, seems to work at least better than the alternatives that have been tried thus far. And, well, we’re running out of viable alternatives to try…

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                The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter, as said by someone but who probably wasn’t Winston Churchill. Dunno why it’d be any different within a workplace versus politics. (Of course there’s also the idea that democracy is the worst except for all the others, which… I suppose. It’s certainly better than what the fascists and the tankies come up with although that’s not saying much.)

                Also, this has certainly been tried although admittedly not in a holistic manner. The Nordic model is basically this blended with more traditional ownership structures. A mixture of the welfare state providing major services with privately owned enterprises alongside co-ops and “democratised workplaces.” And… it’s fine. Has some nice qualities when compared with contemporary socio-economic structures but the political process can muddy the waters and make things inefficient through perverse incentives. Not that similar perverse incentives don’t exist elsewhere, but y’know…

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                  It’s like you said, the best option out of a bunch of flawed ones. We’ve not found the “perfect” governing system yet, but here in the Netherlands things are quite good. We’re slow to change, but when we do it often has quite good, long lasting impacts. In my personal opinion our system is better than most.

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            Hybridised capitalism with socialist elements has been so more successful than socialism alone it’s not even funny.

            People who keep saying “capitalism isn’t working” have only ever learned about socialism through memes.

            Look at how many people have taken from extreme poverty. Just look at that.

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      It’s time to nationalize Starlink & SpaceX.

      I really don’t know what that would actually accomplish. How would any government benefit from doing that kind of a move, especially when the reason seems to just be that Elon is a douche, and that doesn’t seem like a valid reason to do such things. Hell, even if we were to count this kind of blatant aiding of an enemy country as treason, I doubt this would be an appropriate response.

      If anything, it might just set a dangerous precedent and in general be against the very same liberal values which are exactly why we’re helping Ukraine against the foreign imperial occupier. Arbitrary nationalisation of the assets of politically inconvenient people is the kind of stuff that an autocratic regime such as the Russian Federation under Vova would do. And that’s the kind of thing it actually does do, defenestration of political rivals is a convenient way to accomplish many goals, after all.

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        Can we put them in the same cell? I just want to know if they’d get along and start coming up with plans to overtake the world from prison or if one of them would out-ego the other, who it would be, and how that would work out. I’m genuinely curious.

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      Doesn’t the United States already have military communication satellites? If they wanted to give network connectivity to Ukranian drones, I’m pretty sure they could have done so as well.

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        bandwidth/latency might be an issue, but I’m not sure since I’m not an expert

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          I think it probably has more to do with not wanting to escalate to a direct war against Russia or give them a reason to try to shoot down satellites.

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    Nice to see that people are finally seeing through the bullshit, and that Elon is an asshole scammer. I’ve been saying this for years now and I’m always told he’s the next coming of Chris or something. He deserves to rot in a jail cel

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    This is nothing, wait until megacorps have private armies matching national ones like the Hanseatic league

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      Makes one wish that various intelligence agencies were a fifth as competent as they’re portrayed.

      … at least for a few moments.

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        They are competent, but they work for billionaire interests and musk is a billionaire. One can dream though

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          They’re a mixed bag, but nowhere near as competent as people think they are. The CIA spent 50 years trying to assassinate Castro, until a natural fucking death got him. And we’ve got the best intelligence agency in the world. That’s the best we’ve got to offer. 50 years to kill a single man, and we still failed.

          Fact of the matter is intelligence work is tricky to begin with, and trying to leverage intelligence into action is harder by an order of magnitude.

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    I just learned a new English word, and it’s maritime too! Also, yes, screw billionaires interfering with international politics. Also screw billionaires in general.

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      To scupper something is to ruin it, prevent it, etc.

      “We wanted to have a BBQ, but the rain’s scuppered that!”

      Never thought about it before. Now it looks weird written down 😄

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        “Scupper - an opening cut through the bulwarks of a ship so that water falling on deck may flow overboard”

        like so much other bullshit, this comes from the navy. can’t just say tossed overboard, nope, gotta have a whole new nomenclature regarding gutters on gunwales to say the same damned thing as landlubbers

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          Well that’s where it originated from. Scuppers on ships were the deck drains that let water that came over the railings drain back out.

          A ship was deemed scuppered when it was so low in the water that water could now enter through the scuppers, which is a bit of a point of no return in sinking a ship. No bailing or pumping will help at that point.

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    The thing that makes this even more perverse is that Musk doesn’t have the power to stop Russians from attacking anywhere.

    So just what the fuck does he think he’s going to achieve?

    No more government funding for Musk.

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      I kinda hope Anonymous might take a shot at Elon at some point. They are pro-Ukraine.

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    It’s all well and good to talk about doing this, but when are we actually going to do it? I feel our window of opportunity to change society for the better is closing quickly.

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    I mean we already have a word to describe an absolutely insane, self absorbed, narcissistic, selfish, vindictive, asshat: it’s Elon.

    :P

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    At this point, there’s quite a few people in the US I seriosuly think we should habe a talking with.

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    You know how sometimes after you’re done pooping and you stand up to flush and you accidentally knock your cock against the front of the seat and then you’re so mortified that your ballsack shrivels up and retreats into your taint?

    That’s what Elon Musk is. He’s a retreated ballsack. A real taint seeker.

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    I usually only say this in person, but I’m constantly surprised that no one’s tried to assassinate Elon Musk and his ilk.