• Sneaky Bastard@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    Is there a country in the EU where the far right isn’t on the rise? I need a Backup plan in case the nazis are voted in Germany again

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      Denmark. You may not like how Frederiksen did it - she essentially opted for politics that are as anti-immigrant as legally possible - but she also obliterated the far right there. The two far-right parties in Folketing now total 10 of 179 seats…

      And the difference between Frederiksen’s social democrats and the actual far right is huge. No climate change denying, no cozying up to Russia, no anti-lgbtq nonsense, no anti-EU propaganda and so on.

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        10 months ago

        “Anti-immigrant” but welcoming people from select countries. Reminds me of how a Swedish person told me he thought there were too many immigrants but that I, a Canadian, would be perfectly welcome to go there.

        Apparently some people are considered immigrants and that’s bad, while others are just expats looking for a new home.

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          10 months ago

          It’s cultural and religious differences that irritate people moreso, I find.

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            10 months ago

            It’s also that there’s no interest to adopt the culture of the host country and rather building foreign bubbles

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          Apparently some people are considered immigrants and that’s bad, while others are just expats looking for a new home.

          I don’t think they’re considered expats if they plan to stay indefinitely. But yeah, there’s vastly different sentiments towards different types of immigrants. Usually the surveys ask for “European immigration”, but I guess a Canadian would fall into that as well, so they might just as well ask about Western immigration (the use European because of EU freedom of movement). In part sentiments obviously have a lot to do with racism and xenophobia, but it’s unfortunately not just that. The statistics for people who immigrated irregularly (i.e. without a visa) really don’t look good. E.g. here in Germany in 2022 foreign nationals made up some 16% of the population but 32% of crime suspects (excluding crimes around migration which Germans can’t commit). The percentages regarding people who actually get convicted are even worse and “Zugewanderte” (recent immigrants, mainly asylum seekers) used to have even worse numbers as well (before the refugees from Ukraine, largely women and children came).

          Obviously there’s demographic and socioeconomic reasons for that discrepancy. The main issue is that there’s a lot of young men among immigrants and you men tend to commit most crimes, but that obviously doesn’t undo any of these crimes. Ukraine’s rather sexist border controls (they don’t allow men aged 18-60 to leave) really did their diaspora a solid here.

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        Yeah we have tax rebates for the rich, defunding of education, some laughably passive bordering nonexistent policies to protect local environment and combat climate change (heavily lobbied for by the agricultural lobby)…shit is going just A-OK here 👌

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          shit is going just A-OK here 👌

          Well, the baseline is the rest of the planet, so unironically: yes. I mean, take the climate change portion for instance: Every single country on the planet is doing worse than Denmark. .

          I also think your pig farming is silly and detrimental to the environment afaik the only reason you’re not in a recession is fat people in America, but still, the numbers on pretty much everything make Denmark look pretty good. Or the rest of the world very shitty.

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    10 months ago

    Freedom of movement is a human right! For everyone, everywhere, in every direction!

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    10 months ago

    Calm down. While he got the biggest share, it is “just” 35 seats in a 150 seats parliament. He would need another 41 seats in coalition to get anywhere, which means (as his share is the largest) he would not only need one, but at least two partners willing to form a coalition with and a government under him.

    While those 35 seats are still 35 seats too many, I doubt he will run the country.

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    10 months ago

    As a Dutchman, I’m kind of shocked. The battle seemed to be between the previous largest party VVD, the new NSC party and the labour/greens fusion. Then the PVV suddenly surged. Apparently a lot of people who weren’t sure yet ended up going with the PVV. Out of the 4 largest parties we have 3 that are right-wing and/or conservative. The PVV is far-right (though hard to place), the VVD is a neoliberal party, and the NSC is closer to the centre but also quite conservative. We’re entering dark days…

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      The leader of the labour/green did a very bad campaign. I voted for him out of conviction, but I can totally see undecided voters not being convinced by his campaign. The loss of the VVD can be explained partly by the punishment that ruling parties get in elections in these times. I’m just hoping the leader of the NSC doesn’t agree to be in a coalition with PVV. Best thing we can hope for now is a center-right coalition with the Labour/Greens, the VVD (neo-liberals) and NSC (center-right) :(

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        10 months ago

        What shocks me is that unconvinced voters thought his idiotic anti-Islam position wasn’t a reason not to vote for him.

        They’ve know that’s what he stands for the past 17 years. Sure, he said it’s ’negotiable’ if it helps him get into government sometime during the campaign but now that he’s the biggest he’s gonna make a stand on that once more.

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          Everyone here would do well to read the room a bit if we find that surprising. Or at least keep tabs on whats going on outside of your particular ideological bubble.

          Anti immigrant sentiment is up big time across the EU right now. And specifically directed towards people from the Middle East and Africa. I’d wager a lot of people didn’t vote for him despite his stances on that issue, but rather because of them.