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    9 months ago

    You don’t need that, just stop using those apps… don’t install games or use your smartphone for gaming or social stuff. Smartphones are very useful when you are not at home and need to check your bank account, mail, GPS/Maps… 🫤

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      You don’t need that, just stop using those apps… don’t install games or use your smartphone for gaming or social stuff.

      It’s akin to telling a depressed person: ‘just be happy.’ If they could be happy, they wouldn’t be depressed. The same holds true for these apps. While some individuals can quit them, for many of us, the temptation of cheap pleasure outweighs rational arguments. Maybe not immediately, but over time when the initial motivation fades. We have limited control over these impulses. That’s why creating conditions where such temptations are absent can be very helpful.

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        I remember being addicted to that, I was addicted to the phone notifications. But I flashed a custom OS and stopped to give attention to my phone by not installing those games or social media apps, I have absolutely the minimum apps I can.

        I don’t know what other people issues are, but that dumb phone isn’t what you should be using at the end, as many things as I said like bank accounts will require you to have a smartphone to protect your account.

        I think you’re missing a big tool just because you don’t know how to use it correctly, with smartphone you can also record calls from companies trying to lie/scam you and reclaim it, and many things, if you just don’t install any other wasting time app. I already saw this Dumb Phone long time ago and that’s why I say this, you need to learn to not install stupid/wasting time apps.

        Like you would do on your PC to be productive, instead of installing games, you need to have no games and try to focus on productivity. Instead add restrictions to yourself, you need to train your brain.

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          I remember being addicted to that, I was addicted to the phone notifications. But I flashed a custom OS and stopped to give attention to my phone by not installing those games or social media apps, I have absolutely the minimum apps I can.

          Good for you! But it’s important to recognize that each of us enters this world with different genes and is shaped by diverse environmental factors. These elements influence the chemistry within our bodies. While some individuals might find success with your approach, it’s crucial to understand that it’s not for one. Even a dumb phone alone is not the ultimate solution. There needs to be a proactive replacement with something useful and beneficial. For those struggling with self-control, creating an environment with fewer distractions is essential.

          From your post, it appears you may be overestimating the degree of control individuals have over their actions. While some people possess greater self-control, our brains are extremely powerful at coming up with excuses, rationalizing the use of time-wasting apps like Facebook or Lemmy, even if “I” decided to avoid them. Most people fail trying to lose weight, because initial success is often followed by relapses.

          It’s important to acknowledge that different strategies work for different individuals. Even the approach described in the video won’t work in isolation.

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            From your post, it appears you may be overestimating the degree of control individuals have over their actions.

            Well I said “I don’t know what other people issues are” because I do understand the difficult on this, so I don’t “overestimate” this. For me wasn’t easy, but that was long time ago when I saw my issues with those apps that their main function is to keep us addicted to those notification sounds and scrolling shit-content on their sites. Or care more about other people life than our own life.

            What I mean is, you are not going to use a “typewriter” to work instead a computer where you are addicted to play games, you should control yourself and not install those apps on your computer. As a computer is very useful to search on internet, Wikipedia, and work on many other things. Instead of downgrade your tools, you should upgrade yourself and learn to control yourself, it’s not easy, but you can start uninstalling all those apps on your smartphone instead using Dumb Phone.

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    I have done this before. And, yes, you can just delete apps from your smartphone and carry on…

    But, the fact is that McLuhan was right, the medium is the message. So, the having the smartphone will change your behaviour.

    A smartphone in your pocket is just a communication device, but it can be used to access content. As such, it is a medium that has a social effect; that is, a smartphone enables people to create spaces that would otherwise be moments of calm, socialising, rest, work, or boredom. A smartphone creates an environment by its mere presence.

    This person used a TCL Classic, which is a low-powered Android device. You can even sideload apps with adb.

    It likely also includes Google components/packages. So, if someone wants to use this to escape big-tech, data is still being collected. The keyboard app on these types of phones is usually Kika. According to exodus, there are 14 or so trackers built-in (see https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/kika.emoji.keyboard.teclados.clavier/latest/).

    Like I said, I tried this different times: I had a Nokia 800T, and 2 versions of the Punkt. phone. It is a fun experiment. I did spend less time on social media. I was more present. But, at some point, you do need a full smartphone for banking, work, and so on.

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    I see myself doing this when older. For now I am annoyed by social networks but a smartphone is good when traveling and for communication from abroad, so what I do is I do not put anything other on it just couple communications apps like signal, organic maps and thats pretty much it. No urge to check it 100x a day, only when needed so it stays in the bag most of the time.