puts on helmet alright time to check these comments
They’re mostly pretty funny.
When the gay marriage vote came to Australia, my household got very political. I voted yes, but both of my dads voted no.
I never understood the gays who voted no on a referendum back in the 2000s and justified it with some religious and heteronormative bs like “marriage is from religion by religion” and “we’re the outliers, so we shouldn’t make people conform to us”. Like, how self-hating and backstabbing can you be. If you don’t want it, you don’t have to have it but let others realize their dreams at nobody’s expense.
I do agree that marriage is a religious thing and I wouldn’t care at all, but getting married brings a lot of benefits.
So its not like gay people want to “realize their dreams” but we want the same benefits that straight people have.
If religious people dont want to accept gay people, then benefits shouldn’t be given based on religious acts like marriage.
Marriage is not religious. Getting married in a church, with a priest and before God is the religious part.
In a lot of countries you can get married without any religion being involved. Some government officials will then officiate the wedding.
Even true in the religious U.S., even in ultra-religious Indiana. My wife and I got married by a lawyer (a very old family friend) in a ballroom. We said we didn’t want any mention of god or religion and he complied. This was 23 years ago, but it hasn’t changed.
Wait, its true. I fucking forgot one can get married and not do the whole church thing.
I only meant “realize their dreams” in the sense that some people want it as part of their life goals. I personally don’t want it and couldn’t care less but I still want that possibility for others.
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Imagine thinking gay people being allowed to exist is too far.
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Poor me!
Have you come out as intolerant to your mum?
Yeah, that’s why we tolerate you, until you do something other than complain. I want to use your logic. I’m tired of being forced to tolerate you so you should fuck off.
Diddums
I had to google this; now it’s my new favorite word
Make sure you use “poor” before it. Adds more zazz to it.
“Poor diddums”
Why is everyone complaining about child grooming lately? I get my dog groomed once a month and the first couple days of her smelling nice is the best. Do you all just like dirty kids?
Hopefully unnecessary but, /s
I have a teenager- so it’s not that I like that she’s dirty, it’s just that she’s at that age.
How else am I supposed to get my kid looking like a million dollar man? Good looks come with good grooming! Especially the blonde flowing locks!
I firmly believe some children need grooming. Comb their hair once in a while!
It’s like pulling teeth to get my daughter to brush her hair. And she has beautiful curly hair. It gets all matted in the back. She’s 13. Shouldn’t she care?
If you check for “silk spray” for Yorkshire terriers it’s great for painless matt and tangle extractions, and Yorkie fur is quite similar to human hair.
A small tip for those rare events when the brush gets used, and will help with speed and pain
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When I was in middle school pretty much every teacher in the school was in one big lesbian menage a trois. Everyone knew it, and they would all cycle through being roommates with each other. Last I checked, there wasn’t an unusual amount of gay alumni. On an unrelated note, we also learned important skills like critical thinking and understanding the world we lived in, turns out that mattered quite a bit more in my life so far.
That sounds absolutely hilarious. The closest I ever got to that was spotting a middle school teacher years later at a Pride festival. He did not remember me and I was too shy to go talk to him. I had the hunch that he was gay but it would’ve meant a lot to me if he were out during that time. Oh well, he was a great teacher regardless.
It was an open secret that my high school French teacher was gay. He pretty much couldn’t hide it. He would have made MAGA boomer gaydars go off. But at the time, you would get fired if you were openly gay and a teacher in Indiana. It was so fucking stupid. Everyone just turned a blind eye to it. He clearly loved his job and wanted to do it for the rest of his life, but how sad that he had to hide a key part of himself just to do it. I’m not sure if he’s still teaching- I don’t even remember his name over two decades later- but if he is, I hope he’s happily married to his then incredibly hot boyfriend (I’m not gay but he was so hot, I might consider it). I only knew about the boyfriend after graduating and running into them a couple of years later. I guess unlucky in his job but extremely lucky in love.
Is this how
conservativeshomophobes try to play the victim here? “Oh we’re in the minority now, let’s pretend we need to come out”?No, I think the joke is that just talking about your life is considered coming out or even “proselytizing”, if you’re not heterosexual.
I’d always say “I sit there and listen to my teachers talk about their sex life” as a joke when someone asked me how my day was back then, I didn’t think it’d turn into reality.
As an aside, when I was a rather innocent pre teen, I was into hair metal of the 1980s, and liked the Motley Crue song Girls, Girls, Girls. I didn’t know what menage a trois meant though…so I asked my French teacher.
One of my dumbest moments but honestly I really didn’t know and it seemed reasonable to ask the person who knew French.
My school had a Latin teacher who read erotic Latin poetry to her senior class. I didn’t have her, but friends did.
Oh man, I was in a kids choir when I was a kid and we performed at Christian churches often. I was raised Catholic and didn’t have access to a Bible routinely, we you bet I’d be reading Song of Solomon every chance I got. That is the horniest shit ever.
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Until the picture is more clear, society should be mindful (not hysterical, mind you, just careful) about how to talk to children about this.
Yes, we definitely should only teach children about proper, true, God-sanctioned heterosexual relationships until we know how to talk to children about two men holding hands.
I wasn’t referring to gays at all in my second paragraph.
What were you referring to then? That’s what this is about.
Well yes, but the overall conversation has already moved forward from the issue of homosexuality (which in my opinion is “solved”) to transsexuality (which is not so “solved” yet in my opinion).
Exactly how does it hurt kids to teach them that some people identify with a different gender than their biological sex? Do you have some psychological studies to back that claim up or are you just presuming you know?
Some of them will start to imagine that they as well might identify with a different gender then their biological sex, which can cause them significant stress – like the term “dysphoria” aptly suggests. This is supported by data: the amount of reported gender dysphoria in young people has risen steeply over the last 20 years.
A kid who thinks they’re heterosexual might start to imagine that they as well might identify with a different sexuality than the one they were born with, which can cause them significant stress.
Do you not see how this is the same?
And the reason the reporting of the number of cases has gone up is we’re more accepting of trans people now. Guess what, the number of LGBT+ people in general has gone up. Because people can come out of the closet without fearing for their life a lot of the time (but not every time) these days.
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Gross. Why are you talking about “default sexuality” with kids?
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You think being gay is just about sex? Is heterosexuality just about sex to you? If so, I feel bad for you not having any romance in your life.
Homosexuality is a myth made up by the clothing industry to sell all their pink fabric and peacock sunglasses
Why do you want so badly to tell kids about penises going in vaginas? Gross.
Look, why not just come out of the closet. It’s clear from your post history that you are obsessed with thoughts of gay sex. Just admit what you are. It’s 2023. Think long and hard.
And being composed of hydrogen and helium is the default for 99.9% of the entire universe, so why are you creating exceptions for carbon?
You gotta watch out for carbon. I hear it’s grooming xenon.
Get outta here with your xenonphobia
default because of centuries of religion and culture ensuring anything other than heterosexuality was punished
Default because reproduction
Reproduction and sexual orientation are two vastly different things man.
what’s your take on homosexuality in non-human animals then?
It’s mostly territorial
“Man who found out about homosexuality in animals five minutes ago now expert on the majority of homosexual behavior in animals.”
That’s… just straight up false?
You do know gay people can have kids, right?
Should everything just revolve around reproduction, then?
What about video games? If anything, they hamper reproduction! So why should we accept them?
No, but from birth it’s normal to be told that boys love girls and girls love boy, the child has all the time to realize later who he/she want to sleep with.
Why is it normal?
Sounds like those kids are being indoctrinated into being straight, to me.
The point of this post is to point out that the argument of “teachers are corrupting kids into being gay by talking about it and having books with gay people”. The fact that most people are straight doesn’t factor into it at all, unless you mean that everybody is born straight, in which case you’re just wrong. Btw a useful thought experiment in general is to swap “gay” with left-handed. Would you ever say that being right-handed is the “default handedness”? Would you care if a teacher mentions being left-handed?
If you have a pretty loose definition of default, it’s easy to conclude that right-handedness is the default handedness. I wouldn’t be surprised if OP agreed with that idea.
Right, but at that point “default” becomes a useless term. Elsewhere in the thread OP said they’d raise their kids “heterosexually” or smth, and if they’re consistent with wanting to raise their kids the “default” way, they’d also want to raise their kids right-handedly, as girls (because women make up slightly more than 50% of the population), in Mandarin, etc etc. Nobody’s entirely default.
Sure, you could say that right-handed is the default. And? It doesn’t impact any other arguments.
Going even further into extremes, over 99% of matter in the universe is helium or hydrogen. By that definition of default, helium and hydrogen are the default state of matter, and carbon-based lifeforms aren’t “supposed to” exist.
Excellent arguments. I didn’t mean to imply I think children should be raised without mentioning homosexuality.
No worries, I didn’t feel you did!
That’s true
But it also has nothing to do with this. It’s as good as saying someone is evil because the sky is blue.
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If you weren’t lying, you would have told us what the “real issue” is
Yeah mate. You keep telling yourself that.
According to American conservatives that is very much the issue.
Go on…
I don’t think what you’re saying is true. I know someone who very actively doesn’t want mentioning of gay people to kids. For context, he’s foreign-born, isn’t otherwise conservative, and has been a US citizen for probably longer than most people on Lemmy have been alive.
I mention this anecdote because it’s part of many anecdotes and the vast majority of people in his community have viewpoints that I’ve heard and are much more extreme than his.
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And the person recording shouting it over what they’re actually saying just to make this video doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you? Really?
