• WolfdadCigarette@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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    23 days ago

    For anyone considering complaining about the complaining, now is absolutely the time to bitch and moan about the DNC and all of their failures. It’s 4 years until the next presidential election (hopefully) so if ever there were a time to complain, and execute the ultrawealthy, it is now.

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    23 days ago

    Something that really impressed me with Bernie was that in 2015 he gave a speech at Liberty University.

    Liberty is the among the most conservative of conservative “Christian” colleges. As surprised as I was that they allowed him to speak, I was more surprised that Bernie went. I was raised in Christian fundamentalism. I know how hard it is to break down the barriers between you and people who belive you’re going to hell for A.) Being Jewish, and B.) supporting ‘baby murderin’.

    That’s a wide gap but he tried to bridge it anyway and find common ground. I thought he did a damn good job. He showed more backbone than any other major player in the democratic party when everyone else thought it was a waste of time to talk to anyone who isn’t a “swing state” voter.

    It was one of the reasons I voted for him twice. It was clear that Bernie was/is interested in the welfare of all Americans and that he wanted to be president for all Americans. Even ones he might have significant ideological differences with. The Democrats can’t whine about their dwindling support when they’re too chicken shit to go talk to people in Red states. Trump is and will contibue to be a collosal failure as president, but he proved one thing for certain. The days of the “safe” candidate being a winning bet are gone.

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    23 days ago

    Did you see what happened in 2008?

    A progressive won and if he hadn’t ignored the DNC because they screwed him he could have changed leadership and made lasting change to the party!

    The same people wouldn’t be in charge and they wouldn’t be grifting their cut off billionaire’s bribes.

    For the people running the DNC the only real loss would be a progressive winning, that’s why they keep taking steps since then to ensure there’s no chance of their pick losing again .

    We ain’t fighting the same fight as them. They’re fine with a republican winning, hell, it drives up donations.

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      23 days ago

      The DNC allowed Obama to be the nominee because they were assured he would back off on progressive policy and institute corporate friendly programs like the ACA. For the DNC him being the first black president was a suitable surrogate to progressive change.

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          Obama chose to oust Dean over the public option, which facilitated Lieberman’s success in that endeavour, so yeah that is accurate to say.

          Howard Dean was the hiccup in the DNC after 2004 when Kerry and Edwards went for the ticket. He got control of the DNC (being 3rd) and got the party to run on healthcare reform and a public option in all 50 states. The moment Obama took control Dean was removed and the signal was given the public option would not be fought for.

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          That’s the thing that’s hard to determine: if he gave up because of Lieberman or if Lieberman was the cover for backing off.

          I didn’t think so at the time, but given the track record and actions of the party since then? I kinda do feel Obama wasn’t so all-in for it.

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            No, it was pretty clear. And if it was a cover then it was the party telling Obama he couldn’t have it. He’d never have proposed it if he didn’t want it on the table.

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        21 days ago

        He was in favor of civil unions instead of marriage for LGBT so… that’s something I guess?

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    2008 DNC was oblivious to Obama until the caucuses started, cuz polling (except for one agency) was consistently missing his popularity with first-timers, so they didn’t get much of a chance to stop him.

    This was also before Citizens United, so there’s that too…

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    Screw this meme format that perpetuates the normalization and acceptance of christianity. Fixed it.

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      22 days ago

      Would probably flow more naturally and avoid unwanted conversation if you used “on earth” or something else universally experienced instead of “in athieism” which leads to the same problem you were complaining about but from a different group.

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          Sorry if I’m being unintentionally obtuse, this is a genuine question, what’s not normalized about it? I can’t remember the last time I had a conversation about my faith or lack thereof. Could just be my location and circles I hang out with, but I don’t know many people, especially my age or younger, who really care one way or another.

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        He’s wildly unpopular outside of his circle of influence. I think he even lost support in CA this year. That doesn’t mean they won’t try to force him anyway.

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          He didn’t spend all that time vetoing progressive policies and harassing the homeless to sit on the sidelines while someone else runs against Trump’s third term.

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          He supported criminalizing the poor and raising rents just this year. It’s not going to go well for him in a national debate.

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        I really like him but I don’t know if he it in him to be the top of the ticket. Is debate performance was middling at best.

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        The only way I agree with you is if WWIII is underway. But that’s already a possibility even before he takes office.

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          WWIII is already taking place and has been since at least 2020 and probably 2015. Russia has financed the conservatives for a long, long time. They’ve been behind the rise in podcasts, tiktoks, and youtube vids to influence the youth juat look at how the day after the election, grade-schoolers were shifting "your body, my choice at girls. They’ve broken us from the inside.

          This time, well be Germany because we’ll have the camps, and Russia will be Italy and Japan. It took a world War to break fascism hold the last time.

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    Pretty sure only like 16 Million people voted in the 2024 Primary

    Only like 36 Million in 2020

    Instead of complaining about how unfair it is why dont people actually try organizing for a candidate and voting in primaries?

    Or better yet, just give dems + indie a supermajority and they’ll reform voting.

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      23 days ago

      The Democrats can reform their primary process any way they want any time they want. They are a private organization.

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        And they are. In Kansas and Hawaii since 2020 they’ve used RCV for DNC Primaries. Maine, a blue state, also practices RCV for the general election.

        On the other hand, many Republicans have directly opposed RCV.

        And the majority of these reforms are brought about by Petition, including the ballot measures.

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          They are, but not nearly enough. The entire primary system is setup to be easily manipulated by the party leadership and their puppets on cable news.

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      Also, this isn’t exactly a fair statement since the primary was declared over before the majority of states even got to participate. Yes there is low turnout sometimes in states that get to participate, but there are many of us who would like to and can’t, hence feeling like it isn’t exactly a fair or representative process

  • Did the DNC not do anything to knee cap Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel in 2008? Was before I was paying any attention to politics, so actually just asking a question rather than trying to insinuate anything.